from Montalk Website
To take a shot at these questions, we
must examine what physics says of the physical and see if that can
be mathematically extended to produce predictions matching anecdotal
observations of the etheric and astral.
Perhaps the two are identical, but for
this article I will be referring to the “etheric realm” of occultism
since that is where we have empirical data.
Minerals, plants, animals, and people
have physical bodies, but what makes them alive is something beyond
the physical. Without that extra factor, entropy would cause
disintegration of the physical as happens after death. Tracing the
physical processes of the body down to the smallest scales brings us
into the quantum domain. Processes that seem mechanical and
predictable on the large scale have their origins in quantum jumps
that are neither predictable by physical science nor controllable by
Using the terminology of chaos theory,
it is an attractor field (a structured field made of strange
For beginners this requires entering a trance
state in between sleeping and waking, where the mind is decoupled
from linear time and mechanized thoughts. It happens naturally in hypnagogic and hypnopompic states while going to sleep and waking
up, although advanced occultists and shamans can switch into this
while walking around and talking.
While the physical realm and our normal
waking consciousness are both highly localized or collapsed into a
single sharp focal point, the etheric plane is more diffuse, like
the tranced consciousness needed to perceive it. That diffuseness is
what allows the etheric body to shape quantum events, to bias
probability, because it is a structure diffused across multiple
possibilities instead of being localized to just one as our physical
Although relatively speaking, what you
see of the etheric is closer to its actual reality than what you
would see in the astral.
So it wouldn’t be a stretch to say that
this attraction and repulsion seems to come from those probable
futures. Some type of resonant action between the current quantum
system and the most strongly attracted probable future helps that
future manifest. This resonance is encoded in the etheric field, and
it acts upon the physical by pulling on it from the direction of the
future - meaning it is an influence that originates in our perceived
future and flows backward in time.
So a transfer of etheric patterns can take place. You could receive the pattern of illness or bad luck from someone else’s etheric field through close interaction and thus start attracting those. In fact, etheric entities (and devices built by aliens) can be latched onto you in order to alter your behavior, health, and probability of experience.
Certain schools of occultism teach how to create your own etheric thought-forms to accomplish tasks, and the darker of those schools teach how a thought-form programmed to start a fire in your enemy’s home will do just that. Of course, it won’t start a fire by heating the carpet until it smolders, rather it heightens the probability that an accident causing a fire will occur.
All this shows that the etheric is
intimately involved in probability.
Astral beings are not defined by structure and form, but by abstract symbolic meaning and conscious signature.
An astral traveler can still decode all
this into an internally recreated visual environment, but the real
reality behind it isn’t comprehensible in terms of distance and
Why? Because each
are rotated at different angles in space-time.
Relativity treats time as a fourth spatial
dimension, however, where the separation between two events is
measured between two points in the four-dimensional space-time. That
four dimensional separation stays constant no matter the velocity of
the observers, and everything works out. Two observers are just
looking at the same thing from two angles.
This is just a four dimensional version of the Pythagorean Theorem. The Pythagorean Theorem gives distance between two points in an orthogonal coordinate system (right-angled measuring grid).
For instance, the two and three dimensional versions of the Pythagorean theorem are:
(Where x and y are sides of a rectangle,
and z is the height of a cube or rectangular prism)
At low velocities where there is barely any rotation into the fourth dimension, we can get by doing all our physics with real time. But in truth, time is imaginary compared to space.
What does this mean, that time is
Quantum physics does as
well. How the two relate, and how that ties into the etheric and
astral realms, is the focus of the rest of this article.
The wave function is written like so:
This definition states that the total
wave function is simply a time-dependent phase factor multiplying a
space-dependent wave function. If you compare this to Relativity,
you’ll see that what in space-time is imaginary (the time component)
becomes here a phase factor, while what was real (the space
component) becomes a wave function depending on that component only.
What happens upon observation is that we, as points of consciousness, lock phase with one “frame” of that wave function so that, with both now having the same wave alignment, both share the same reality, both are tangible to each other, and other possibilities not phase-locked get shut out.
(As stated earlier, if you diffuse your consciousness to something other than a sharp point, you can likewise perceive things in their fuzzier probabilistic state).
There is absolutely no way for science
to mathematically predict what particular tangible state a
wave-function will collapse into; that is decided by consciousness
and the etheric template, not the physical.
What is imaginary, we can only navigate
to the degree that our consciousness changes.
These were the questions I asked. And it leads straight into quaternions, which are an extension of imaginary numbers. Instead of just being the square root of minus one, the other imaginary numbers j and k relate to each other in similarly odd ways.
The rules for quaternions are as follows:
The difference between real and imaginary numbers is basically a ninety degree rotation into a dimension of impossibility. By that I mean, if you ask a fifth grader what is the square root of negative one, they’ll say it is impossible since no number times itself can give a negative value. But that is what happens to be defined as, something that exists and can be worked with despite seeming impossible.
The same goes for the etheric relative to the physical - tell any scientist of the etheric realm and he will find it impossible, yet the influence of the etheric hides right behind the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle and the unpredictable phase-locking of the wave functions. It exists and can be worked with, but is impossible under thinking of conventional physics which treats the intelligent and ordered biasing of phase-locks as mere “randomness” that can only be analyzed statistically like a game of Plinko.
And for this same reason, science still
does not know what time truly is - they know space very well,
because it is real, but time is imaginary and we move along it
mysteriously at a steady pace.
That is what must be done, to take the coordinates of space-time times an and thus “operate” upon it a virtual ninety degree rotation:
So whereas the physical realm has imaginary time and real space, the etheric realm has real time and imaginary space. We can take it further and multiply by to theoretically get the astral:
And if we operate upon the astral coordinates with the third imaginary number we get back the physical:
Summarizing the structure of the coordinates:
These are the raw coordinates. The Pythagorean space-time intervals are as follows:
These two are just opposite in sign.
This implies that,
Of course, at moments of quantum choice multiple paths open up into the future, and thus multiple futures have paths tracing back to the present moment.
matches what was stated earlier about probable futures exerting
influences via the etheric that go backward in time and intersect
the present. So the etheric is indeed associated with some kind of
“reverse time” phenomenon, at least as far as its interactions with
our physical realm is concerned.
Maybe that explains why etheric phenomena depend so much on geometry:
We can take a closer look at the quantum physics of the etheric plane, if that is even possible. Earlier it was shown how space-time coordinates related to the wave function, where imaginary components became a phase factor multiplying another wave function depending only on the real components.
Applying this to the etheric case:
And continuing onto the astral case:
I’m not sure whether the etheric wave
function should have the last part be
but in either case that wave function is a function of time, and if
periodic would be a frequency. Therefore the etheric wave function
is a spatial phase factor times a frequency factor. That may be
where the resonance phenomenon of the etheric body comes into play.
It is also why you can get bad reactions
to people with bad vibes if you get too close to them, or say, why
having a roommate of bad vibes can drag you down as well (aside from
the psychological osmosis) including bringing you the same mishaps
and misfortunes that are resonant with him or her.
astral case is interesting because all components of the astral
coordinates are imaginary and thus the wave function consists purely
of phase. This shows that, as required, the astral realm is
completely different from the physical. Whereas the etheric somewhat
mirrors the physical, the astral is perpendicular to both the
physical and the etheric. Its wave function has no spatial or
temporal wave function component, just pure phase. It is beyond
space-time and time-space.
This is evident from the following Special Relativity equations:
Or the General Relativity equations, in terms of the gravitational potential :
When or then time goes to infinity and length goes to zero, both losing their meaning.
Those conditions happen at the event horizon, at the speed of light, on the light-cone in space-time diagrams. All quantum wave functions would, in that state, lose their real spatial and temporal dependence and the only thing left would be phase.
And that is why existence in the true astral realms is so abstract, symbolic, timeless and spaceless.
The astral is the phase space, phase time, within the bubble of eternity. And from this state, physical realms are accessible by simply rotating into them via transformation through k, though only in accordance with the phase pattern one holds in the astral state. This may very well be the process of incarnation.
Reincarnation would involve
consciousness first rotating out of the physical, then out of the etheric, and finally into the upper strata of the astral before
doing the reverse and entering into a new fetus.
This is another reason etheric processes
act acausally instead of causally - they operate in a region of
reality that are not causally connected to us (in the same way one
domino knocking down another are causally connected) but rather acausally by “unpredictably” affecting the phase of the physical
If so, it would look like this:
This is to allow for entities occupying multiple realms. For instance, the coordinate (ic3 – c5, 2+4i, 0, 0) is located neither entirely in the physical nor in the etheric, but has projections onto each. We would observe this point located at 2 meters and 3 imaginary light-seconds, while in the etheric realm it appears to be at 4 imaginary meters and -5 light-seconds.
truth this point is neither in the physical nor in the etheric, but
This is probably the same phase discussed earlier in connection with the quantum wave function:
As mentioned earlier, 0° quantum phase
difference means phase lock or full tangibility between two beings
(or a system and its observer) and just now 0° polar phase was
defined as the physical plane - the plane of tangibility.
Consider two moments in time, both occurring at noon on the same day but located in parallel timelines. In the first you have spaghetti for lunch, the other you have curry.
Where are these two moments relative to each other?
Well, they both have the same physical
since they both happen at noon. But if time is complex, then they
must have different complex time values despite having the same
imaginary one. One could be (.435c + ic12) and the other (.482c +
Although that could be easily added by
layering light-cones or having them be joined at the axis with
rotation from light cone to light cone signifying changing phase
The complex spaces may even have a fractal structure, which would make opportunities for experience and evolution of life truly infinite. That is assuming any of this math speculation is even correct, and given that I only received these ideas less than a week ago there is plenty of room for error.
If nothing else, consider this research note an exercise in creative thinking.