It is a great privilege and pleasure to be here in Detroit to speak
to you on the subject of "flying saucers." The term "flying saucers"
until very recently in the world has been more laugh provoking than
it has been thought provoking. But now people all over the world are
beginning to realize that this phenomenon known as the "flying
saucers" may have a great bearing on the lives of each and everyone
of us in the not too distant future!
Tonight I will tell you of our own experiences with flying saucers.
I also know of a number of men who have had various similar
experiences. I was with George Adamski in November of 1952 when he
had the memorable contact in the desert with the flying saucer. Both
my wife and I were witnesses to that event. The event as it is
described in the book entitled Flying Saucers Have Landed by Desmond
Leslie and George Adamski is accurate and true. However, our work in
flying saucers started long before our contact with Mr. Adamski. It
was through our own work that we heard of him and eventually met
him. We wondered what to do with the information we had collected
and decided to go to see George Adamski who was only 400 miles away
In the book Flying Saucers Have Landed, Mr. Adamski has several good
pictures of saucers. The great astronomical observatories of the
world also have pictures of saucers. I have a friend who went to
school with one of the astronomers who is now working at the "Big
Eye" (telescope) at Mount Palomar. Many times the students of
various universities are allowed to spend time at the Big
Observatory to work on certain projects. This friend of mine was at
Mount Palomar and asked his former classmate, the astronomer, how it
was that an amateur photographer like George Adamski could get
pictures of saucers and Mount Palomar could not, and if Adamski's
pictures were fake. The astronomer replied that Mr. Adamski's
pictures were NOT fake and if he thought Adamski's pictures were
good, he should see the ones they have at Mount Palomar.
The government has the story. They also have made radio contact with
saucers. Whether they will ever give out this information or not we
do not know. They may wait until we all know about it and then
confirm it. There is a project known as MQ707 at Edwards Air Force
Base which is a project for telecommunication with saucers. They
contact these craft and attempt to get them to land.
In August 1952 we had our own contacts with space people via short
wave or radio telegraphy. I had been in Minnesota a year or more
previously where I was working among the Chippewa Indians gathering
little known legends and facts about them that had not been
accumulated or written down before. I knew nothing more about
saucers than most people. There had been a few things in the
newspapers and I had, of course, heard of flying saucers.
On the way to Minnesota I picked up a copy of Major Kehoe's first
book Flying Saucers Are Real. When I arrived in Minnesota, it was
raining and continued to rain for several days. I could not get out
of my cabin so I read the book. Once I started it I could not put it
down until I finished it. After I finished reading it I was
thoroughly convinced myself that these things could at least be
interplanetary. Here was a man, a former Marine Major, who had gone
into the subject in an objective way and had analyzed all the facts
and had come to the conclusion that they could not be anything else
but something from outer space. In fact, I believe he mentioned in
the book that it was hard for him to accept this and that it was
fantastic, but that no other conclusion seemed to fit the evidence.
As I read this book, all the Indian legends I had been collecting
seemed to fall into place, and I began to see that a number of the
stories I had collected sounded like flying saucers. I checked with
my wife who was doing work among the Mexican Indians and found she
had been finding the same thing. On further investigation, we found
that all American Indian tribes had practically the same legends.
There were slight variations but they almost all had the same basic
For a long time anthropologists had discarded Indian legends and the
stories of so-called primitive people throughout the world because
they said they were merely the stories of superstitious people and
had no basis or fact. No longer are they doing this for they realize
that there must be something to start a story and although these
legends or stories were not written down as they did not have a
written language, they were passed from generation to generation.
One of the Chippewa's legends is the account of the "Gin Guin" or
the "Earth-rumblers," or the "Wheels-that-rumble-the-earth." The
story in essence is this: At various times a rotating wheel or
whirling wheel, sometimes surrounded by a cloud, would descend and
lightning would sometimes be seen to shoot from it. Then out of it
would step a young fair-haired man whom they called "Bococitti," the
fair-haired god who comes from the skies. Stories like these are
found throughout the United States and in fact almost all primitive
people throughout the world seem to have the same kind of legends.
After I left Minnesota, I joined my wife in Prescott, Arizona, where
my family lives. A friend of mine, Alfred C. Bailey, came to visit
me and asked to see what I had been accumulating on my recent trip.
I did not mention saucers, but let him read some of the legends.
When he finished reading the material I had collected, he said:
"This sounds like flying saucers. I thought your trip was to collect
legends of the Indians?"
We discussed the flying saucer phenomena and thought perhaps they
might be weather conditions, for we would not be the first to
observe weather conditions. The Indians would have seen the same
things and perhaps made legends about them. We also talked about the
possibility of man traveling to other planets by rockets. One of us
suggested something with a lot of "ifs" in it. If in the future we
of earth planned to go to another planet, and if we found it
inhabited and if they had radio or some similar type of
communication, why could we not monitor their radio and attempt to
learn their language and find out about the culture of the
inhabitants before we landed? We decided that perhaps if the other
planets were inhabited and space people were visiting us that they
might now be doing this very thing. Perhaps they might even be
interested in contacting certain people on earth, people who were
We were just discussing these possibilities and were really not too
serious about it. We reasoned this way. If these people from outer
space have been here since Kenneth Arnold first observed them in
1947, certainly they must know our language and our Morse Code
communication system. By monitoring our radios they undoubtedly
could pick up our language in a short period of time, as the Morse
Code System is no secret and it is used daily throughout the world.
However, we decided it was all too fantastic and we then dismissed
However, several weeks afterwards Al Bailey called me and said:
"Remember what we were discussing about flying saucers? We have had
"What do you mean?" I asked, "Have you seen one?"
"No," he replied, "I do not mean that, I mean that we have made
Then I asked the question that all of you would ask: "Is it a hoax?"
"Yes," he said, "The radio man thinks it is a hoax because he cannot
figure out why they would contact a nobody like him. He wonders why
they did not contact the government or Einstein."
I later asked the radio man: "How do you know they have not
contacted the government?" He thought his might be a reasonable
Regarding the messages we were receiving, the radio man suspected
that they might be from another amateur. He noticed that the code
was extremely loud and he had to turn his whole set almost
completely off and the volume way down. He also noticed that the
code was very fast. The radio man is not only a "ham" (amateur)
operator but is also a commercially licensed operator with the Santa
Fe Railroad in Arizona, and he has a reputation of being very fast
on both receiving and sending. But he missed much of the messages we
were receiving. He constantly asked them to slow down and they would
slow down between words but not between letters. The words would
come in very fast and then a long pause before the next word. He
then began to realize that the messages could not be coming from
He then thought that if they were coming from earth
they might be from communists in Mexico. This was a poor idea and he
did not keep this idea too long, but he thought possibly they might
be communists in Mexico preparing for a landing, and when they
landed we would greet them in friendship and out would come the
Russians. He thought it might be a plan preliminary to an atomic
bomb attack to cause panic. However, he dismissed that idea very
His ham radio shack in his backyard was separated into two sections.
One part was where he did repair work and the other part contained
his radio set. He did technical work for the Santa Fe Railroad and
also for police radios. He noticed that if he was at his work bench,
the saucer people would come in and give a preliminary warning
before giving the message and when he got to the set the message
would start. The warning was in the form of a couple of preliminary
beats. However, if he was already at the set they never gave this
preliminary warning. This gave him a very strange feeling for they
seemed to know whether he was at the radio equipment or not. The
messages were received in international Morse Code. One time we had
radio telephone contact with the space people but the rest of the
time it was radio telegraphy.
The radio man decided to run some sort of a test and told them he
was operating at a disadvantage because they knew who he was but he
did not know who they were.
"As you have made this contact you must be interested in
us. Therefore will you give us some type of assurance so that we can
know that you are who you say you are?"
They replied immediately, and said: "Yes, yes. If you will get a
glass we will be by Solus at high time tomorrow."
We took that to mean that if we would get a telescope they would be
by the sun at noon the next day. We did not have a telescope and did
not know exactly what they meant by being "by the sun." I went out
the next day and looked up at the blazing sun, but of course did not
see anything. However, that evening the newscast coming up from
Phoenix, Arizona at 5:45 p. m. announced that a large fleet of the
so called "flying saucers" had been sighted around noon that day.
This could have meant something but we did not want to jump at
conclusions and decided to wait until something else developed.
The next day the Los Angeles Times reported that Mount Wilson
Observatory in the middle part of the previous day had observed
tremendous sun spots suddenly appear on the sun.
Now there is nothing unusual about sun spots on the sun, except that
this was a period of declining sun spot activity. There should not
be any sun spots at least not large ones, and instead of their
lasting the usual two-week to thirty-day period these sun spots
lasted only one day. We do not know if there is any connection or
not, or if this is just a strange coincidence.
I would like to mention that I am not a technical man. One of the
reasons anthropology appealed to me was that I did not have to take
mathematics. It is said that the men go into anthropology because
they do not have to take mathematics, and the women go into it
because there are men in it! Now what I tell you as we get into more
scientific terminology this evening is for you to accept or reject.
I am not going to inject any of my own opinions or ideas for I am
sure you are not interested in my opinions. However, I do feel that
the experiences that I have had and the experiences of others with
flying saucers should be told.
We were very much interested in our radio contacts and wanted to
find out if it was all true. The radio man decided to run a test. He
was on 40 meters and asked a question and got an immediate answer.
Then very quickly he switched to 160 meters and asked another
question and the answer came in promptly. The 40 meters that he was
going to switch to 160 meters the man would not have had time to
find him and therefore could not have heard the question and could
not have answered it. That was one of the first tests he made.
Then one night a cousin of his visited him while he was in
communication with another ham. He did not mention saucers to the
cousin but they heard a strange buzzing sound outside. He has a
fluorescent tube on the outside of his shack and when he is sending
messages it flashes on and off. He asked his cousin to go outside
and see if there was anything wrong. The cousin did and called to
him to come outside quickly.
"You might think I'm crazy but I think that there is one of those
flying saucers," he said excitedly.
Above the antenna a large orange disc was hovering but it soon took
off at high speed. Then the radio man told his cousin what he had
been doing in trying to establish radio contact.
The radio man figured as long as they had contacted him by radio
perhaps they would be willing to land in some remote area. He asked
them and they replied they would be willing to land, it would just
be another saucer sighting and there are hundreds of such sightings.
Then the radio man made all the arrangements as to where we would go
the next day to make the contact. He was to drive in one car, and we
would follow him in our car.
That same evening the radio man's father-in-law came in from
Tennessee. He was quite an elderly gentleman and was very senile and
childish and could not keep his balance. He was really a sick man.
The radio man had finished transmitting for the evening when his
daughter came into the shack and told us that she had quite a
problem as to what to do about the elderly gentleman. She felt they
should not take him with them on the trip in which they hoped to
contact the space people and she felt she could not leave him alone.
If she took him on the trip and he saw something unusual he might
have a heart attack and certainly she could not tell him that she
was going out to contact a man from another world. Also, she was
afraid that if they saw him they might not want to land.
We discussed this problem for at least an hour and we were not
attempting any experiment in mental telepathy or anything like that,
it never entered our minds. The receiver was on as always and all at
once a message came in which said:
"Now, about the father."
Believe me I think my hair stood on end when I looked over the radio
man's shoulder and saw what he was writing. The radio man turned
around looking very pale and said:
"Believe me if I ever doubted, I do not now, because this is
impossible but it is happening before my very eyes."
These space people told us about the old man's condition, which was
verified later by a doctor. They also said there was a saline
solution by the bed which was hampering the contact and asked that
someone remove it and clean it up. The daughter went inside and
found the solution. She came back looking very pale also. The space
people seemed to know everything that went on in the ham shack and
in the house. This message in connection with the elderly gentleman
was the longest and I feel that it was the most significant message
we received. But they said it would be all right for us to take him
with us the next day. Their parting sentence was:
"Never fear the aged for they can help when they are brought back
into life again."
You will all have to interpret that for yourselves, but I feel that
it is very important.
The next day a fourteen year old boy from next door who was staying
with his uncle, a Colonel in the Air Force, came over and asked us
what happened last night. The radio man thought this strange because
he was on the air almost every night and the neighbors were used to
this. He asked the young boy what he meant, and if he had seen
anything unusual. The boy replied that he woke up, and gave the time
he awakened which was the same time we were having the radio contact
about the old gentleman.
He looked out from the glassed-in porch
where he had been sleeping and saw a long tubular shaft of white
light above the house. He could not see where it ended as it kept
going straight up into space. The lower end went right down into the
house and into the bedroom. The boy said he knew he was not
dreaming. He was fully awake and knew what he saw.
This was just another check, for no one knew what we were doing. In
fact, I did not tell my father until months later but he was quite
skeptical and thought we were being hoaxed. However, I have since
heard from my mother and she said father finally saw a flying saucer
and it was confirmed by his friend, the head of the weather bureau.
So my father is beginning to wonder too.
Unfortunately we did not succeed in making our contact the next day.
The radio man went on first and we were to meet him. However, in
trying to follow his car we ran into a great deal of traffic and we
lost him. He took a left fork in the road which we unfortunately did
not see him take. We tried hard to find him but could not. When we
all returned later that evening we made radio contact with the
saucer people again and they said that the plans had been changed
but that when all was ready we would be contacted "by a man." I did
not know what they meant but that is what they said.
Now I know you must wonder what all this means. It is very
interesting to speak to a Venusian on the desert and to talk to a
saucer by short wave radio, but really when the novelty wears off
and the excitement subsides, what does it mean? If it just means
that some stray Venusian happened to drop down and talk to a man in
the desert and took off again and that would be the end of it, it
does not mean much.
The people of the world are asking what it means. If saucers are
interplanetary and they are coming here, what does it mean to us?
Are they here to conquer us, are we all going to be annihilated?
What does it mean and why have they come. We asked these and all
manner of similar questions.
One of the questions was asked by my wife as she is interested in
"You have such tremendous development in space ships,
etc., have you advanced in medical science?"
They answered with just "No."
We were amazed and said: "That does not seem right. You have space
ships yet you have not advanced in medical science? Why?"
The answer was: "Simple, no disease, no medical science."
They also said it was not natural for man to die in agony of cancer
or other diseases, and that it is not the germs we have that cause
disease. The germs are merely the scavengers and it is incorrect
thinking that causes disease.
We asked about the length of life on the other planets. They replied
that on Mars or Venus the inhabitants live between 300 to 1500
years, and when they have learned the lessons of the planet they
have been living on, and then are ready to go to the next, they
merely pass out of the picture.
Believe me, this saucer business is fantastic, but even living
itself is fantastic. The fact that we are alive and sitting here is
fantastic. Truth is stranger than fiction and we must keep an open
mind. We realize that what we know now is only a pale shadow of what
we will know tomorrow. Remember the learned men in Columbus' time at
the Spanish Court! Columbus was held up three years because the
great scientists thought they knew all there was to know about
science. They were absolutely certain that the earth was flat, but
of course we know now that is not true. The wise men should have
known better, because their ancestors on this earth knew full well
that the earth was round. Their ancestors also knew that other
planets were inhabited. What these space people are telling us is
not really new. It is only new to some of us. Remember the old
saying: " There is nothing new under the sun."
We asked about our atomic experiments because there is so much talk
about strange weather, tornadoes, etc. They said yes, they were
quite concerned about our atomic experiments. It seems to me we
should be a little concerned also. Three days after an atomic bomb
was set off we had an earthquake in Turkey killing about 1,200
people. The atomic bomb blasts shake up our earth faults and
contribute to some of these things. Even our astronomers tell us
that large sun spots appear on our sun, which is over 90 million
miles away, when an atomic bomb is set off. If it can affect our sun
so many miles away it is logical to assume that the blast
contributed to the Turkey disaster. These people are concerned about
our atomic bombs, but it is not our atomic bombs that are their main
They say that our entire solar system is moving into a new area of
the universe and that cosmic ray bombardment will increase at a fast
rate. Recently a very famous American physicist announced to the
scientific world that the electron count has speeded up and that the
cosmic ray bombardment was increasing at a tremendous rate and that
present theories would not account for it in any way. He was very
alarmed. His work did not get into the newspapers. It did appear in
a few scientific journals and was immediately hushed up. But, if you
look in some of the back issues of Science News Letter you will find
the facts. The space people told us about this even before it was
Another thing they told us about was the extra satellites or moons
that we now have. It was only recently announced, but I happen to
know that some of our people were investigating this phenomenon over
two years ago. In fact our government was doing work on it two miles
from us at Lowell Observatory when we had our radio contacts with
space people in northern Arizona. During this time the saucers spoke
of Lowell Observatory and I know that over a million dollars worth
of electronic equipment was installed on top of Mars Hill in an
endeavor to locate the two satellites or artificial space stations
that are now in the earth's gravitational field. This is not a
secret, Frank Edwards, Washington commentator, has had it on his
newscast and it has been written up in several scientific journals,
etc. However, it has not been announced what these space stations
are. I can state that they are not Russian space stations and they
do not belong to us. They travel so rapidly that they cannot be
picked up by telescope but they have been detected by electronic
The space people said that as we move into this new area of the
universe there are going to be some very strange things take place
on the physical, mental and spiritual planes. Peoples' minds are
going to change for one thing. Also, there will be tornadoes and
earthquakes. Volcanoes that have never been active in recent history
will become active and erupt. Perhaps the ones in Alaska and in the
Pacific that are now becoming active are perhaps part of this
picture. Watch your newspapers in the small corners for the news and
you can see the trend for yourself.
The Ionian Island disaster was over an area in the Mediterranean
where three of the earth's major fault lines converge. Also a large
explosion was felt over Seattle a couple of years ago when green
fireballs exploded and caused a great reverberation throughout the
Seattle area in the state of Washington. Seattle is also over an
area where three of the major fault lines of the earth converge.
These saucers are coming from many different places in the universe.
The only thing that men on earth can accept is a physical phenomena
such as a saucer or mechanical device and even then some people in
the world are laughing at flying saucers. Incidentally, we were told
that these ships operate in a resonating electromagnetic magnetic
field. They say we have not yet discovered the fourth grade primary
force of the universe, which is what they are using. It is the same
force that makes a space ship out of our own planet. ALL celestial
bodies operate in a resonating electromagnetic magnetic field. The
small craft have counter rotating wheels. They say that this power
is to be ours also and that earth will in time be taken into the
Now a word about space beings. There are beings in outer space who
do not eat as we do and there are those who do not have organs of
speech like ours, but they use telepathy for communication. Let me
tell you what these people have to say about man:
Man wherefrom, whyfor, and whereto. They say that man is not man
because he has two legs, two arms and two eyes placed in a certain
position in his head or because he has come up from the anthropoid
ape. They say that man is man because he is a spiritual being, that
man exists through the universe, that man as a race is an inhabitant
of space, and that he takes on certain physical manifestations or
vehicles on certain planets to learn certain lessons and have
certain pleasure-pain experiences.
We can liken our earth very simply to a school. If you had
progressed beyond this earth you would not go down to the first
grade and interfere with what was being taught there. The space
people will not interfere with our instruction. They say we are not
going to get off this planet until we make the grade or learn the
lessons this earth has to teach us. They liken it to the words of
Christ: "In my Father's house there are many mansions." In space
there are many planets and they say that all of them are inhabited
by "life." After I had these experiences I started reading the Bible
and many other things mentioned by the space people. In Hebrew it
says: "the worlds were framed by the word of God." Please note that
"worlds" is plural.
What about some of the astronomical theories? The science of
astronomy is known as a pure and true science because it is based on
mathematics. When most of us were in school, astronomers said the
planet Jupiter contained deadly methane and ammonia gas. Recently
they have announced through scientific journals that they were 100%
wrong, Jupiter is hydrogen. If they are 100% inaccurate about one
thing they are liable to be about something else. As many of you
know because it has been in many of the newspapers, they have
discovered that the distances to Andromeda and the other great
galaxies are double the distance previously announced. Again, they
were 100% wrong. It is twice as far as they thought! This is much
the situation as existed in Columbus' time. The scientists of
Columbus' time were no less great because they said the earth was
flat; unquestionably they represented great minds of the time. On
today's mistakes are based the truth of tomorrow.
These people say that all planets are inhabited to a certain extent
by some type of life. They say that comets are planets in the
making. That is now one of the latest astronomical theories. They
are discounting the old nebular and planetesimal hypothesis that we
blew off from the sun. The latest theory is that planets and other
celestial bodies are formed by cosmic matter accumulating in space,
getting bigger and bigger like a snowball rolling down a hill. After
millions of years the comets cool off and vegetation, etc., appears
and single cell life develops indigenous to that planet. Also, when
the planet is ready for human life, or the classroom is all readied
up, spiritual life arrives from outer space.
In other words, what these people are saying is that they are your
brothers and sisters and that they are not of a different creation.
The only reason you and I are where we are is that we are getting
certain lessons in this particular classroom. The reason they are on
Mars or Venus is because they have left our grade. They say there is
no basic difference, that life came from outer space in the
beginning to the planet earth. The story in Genesis of Adam and Eve
is true, but is allegorical.
In this case everyone of you is a "spaceman." We are all space
people because we do not live underground but live on the surface of
the planet so we are as much "space people" as the people on Mars.
We are not space craft people for we do not travel from planet to
planet, but we are space people.
Very recently a professor in Finland, one of the world's foremost
geographers, announced that they have discovered that practically
all of the earth's bacteria that form humus is dying at a rapid
rate. It takes some nine thousand years to produce a certain humus
and if it does not replenish itself it will leave in about two
years. This means the possibility of famines on our earth. There is
no known way of stopping this. It is continuing to die because of
the increased cosmic ray bombardment. These things are absolute
facts and they can be checked.
The saucer people told us by radio it does not matter whether you
believe who you are in contact with or not because if this thing is
true it is going to happen. I have always believed what Francis
"Truth is the daughter of time and not the authority."
If what I say is true, it will lie on, if not it will die a very
quick death and no one is going to be harmed very much. But, on the
slight chance that it is true it is very important because the lives
of each and every one of us are going to be changed. My life has
already been completely changed by these contacts with space people.
I have had to give up a large part of what I learned in school,
because it cannot stand in the light of the new knowledge which is
coming to us.
John Robinson in England, a young astronomer, has upset many of the
older astronomers by announcing that seventy miles above our earth
there is a layer of pure hydrogen. In other words, if you were on
Mars and you were looking through a spectroscope, you would say
nothing in heaven's name could live on earth because it is hydrogen.
We know that all life, oxygen, water, vapor, etc., is found near the
surface of our planet. And, as I said it has been announced that
Jupiter is hydrogen; so why can not someone live on Jupiter?
Another thing is that some of the astronomers seem to be such great
authorities on what these other bodies are. Our so called
astrophysicists say that these bodies are such and such. Recently, a
well-known astronomer announced that the core of Jupiter is
definitely solid. How can he know that, when our own geologists are
still debating the question as to whether the core of our earth is
solid or not? We do not even know the nature of our own planet under
our feet. So how can we know what Jupiter is like millions upon
millions of miles away? Between the spectroscope and Jupiter you
have millions of miles where all kinds of cosmic debris is floating
around. That is why one time the spectroscope will get one reading
from Venus and at another time will get a totally different reading
with the same spectroscope. It just is not accurate.
As I said before, the space people say that all planets are
inhabited, and that there are twelve planets in our solar system and
not nine. Of course, twelve is significant in our symbology and our
historical records; such as twelve apostles, twelve months, twelve
signs in the Zodiac, etc. They say there is one planet beyond Pluto
and two more between Mercury and the sun. One of these has already
been seen in transit in the late eighteen hundreds across the sun's
surface and was named Vulcan, but it was not accepted by most of the
The contacts that we had were mostly with Mars, Venus, Jupiter and
Saturn. They say that Saturn is the tribunal or headquarters of our
solar system. There have been many debates as to whether the
saucerians are etheric. Are they from other worlds, other
dimensions, are they invisible or are they discarnate spirits? In
other words, by dying do we merely pass into another dimension,
another world? Is that what the saucer beings are? Are they beings
like ourselves in a three dimensional world on another planet such
as Mars or even in another system? All of these concepts are
apparently accurate to a certain degree.
Saucers are coming from many different places; from our own solar
system, from other solar systems which are in our own dimension and
they are also coming from higher dimensions. They claim that at the
present time there are fifty-one solar systems in the confederation
and that they have over three and one-half million space craft
surrounding our planet at the present time.
They have been following out a definite plan. They say that they
have agents throughout the earth. These fall into several groups.
They say there was an influx of people from other worlds by space
craft transportation in the eighteen hundreds. The microfilm
libraries in various newspaper morgues tell of enormous spaceships
seen in our atmosphere at this period. Another group consists of
about ten million people not of earth origin now on the surface of
our planet. About six million of these are now in the United States.
This group did not just now step off from saucers. They are here
through the reincarnational cycle, and starting about 1947 the
saucer beings began a program of waking up these people to the fact
that they lived originally on other planets. The saucers also now
land their own people here to perform certain definite jobs. These
space people do not live among us permanently. They are only here
for short periods. They also say that the reason we on earth have
progressed more in the last fifty years than we had in the last ten
thousand years is because of this type of assistance coming from
They have further said that certain people will be taken from our
earth to other planets. However, there will be those who will not be
taken for the simple reason that they themselves are not perfect and
some people on earth if taken to their planet might incorrectly
influence the minds of some of their own people. However, some
people are being taken now and they will be instructed and returned
here to be used as teachers.
I want to make it very clear that I am not representing any church
or any particular group and my opinions are not important; I can
only repeat what was said by the space people. They say life is
eternal and that Christ is in charge of the planet earth. The saucer
people are the "hosts" that were prophesied about as coming to earth
proceeding the Second Coming of Christ. They say it is true that
Christ will return and that there will be a judgment day. There will
also be earthquakes, etc.
Certain souls have progressed to a certain
stage where the new earth will be for them; all others who have not
reached this stage of growth will go elsewhere. They say only the
good will remain on earth, that is those of a certain evolvement. As
for the judgment day, the "judgment" is merely our own development.
Some will be able to live in the new higher vibration, and some will
not. All will, however, land in the "school" best suited for their
There is now a tremendous interest in our planet from outer space.
These people claim they are not gods, they are only a little bit
ahead of us and they still make plenty of mistakes. They figured
that we would discover nuclear energy about 1950 but because of our
second world war and the speed-up in technical advances this came
about in the 40's. They said they knew our whole system was passing
into a new area of the universe and that certain things had to be
done because certain conditions will not exist on earth in the new
They are not going to interfere in the sense of coming down and
stopping what we are learning in this classroom. Now some of us
wonder why God himself in all his mercy does not or has not stopped
wars on this earth. Or we wonder why the space people, if they are
so grand and powerful - why they do not stop wars. It is because
there are certain souls that need to experience wars, and after they
are blown up about twenty thousand times the soul finally realizes
that it is all a little ridiculous.
These people do not like to see war, they do not like to see the
cream of our youth destroyed in wars, and much of our good
attainment destroyed. But at the same time they do not look upon
death as we do. They claim that life is eternal and therefore if you
leave one physical vehicle it does not matter very much because you
live forever anyway. When they see our boys die on the battlefield
they realize it is not death. Nevertheless we are told that the New
Age will eventually see the end of all wars on this planet forever.
They also say that we are the only warring planet in this section of
the universe. We are not the only planet that has wars, but in this
section of the universe we are the only warring planet.
To give you an example they said they know of a system where the
people have just invented the wheel and have an axle and found out
that if they put beeswax on the axle it would not wear out so
quickly. So there are places where men are still running around with
clubs, and there are planets that are just cooling off. It is a
continual process and I might add that the whole thing is a circular
affair. We are heading toward perfection but we are the planet of
lowest development in this section of the universe. In other words,
we thought we were so grand but we are not -- we seem to be more
like the garbage can!
During my lecture in Cincinnati I referred to our earth as the
"garbage can" of our system. One woman said she could believe of
this but that she just could not believe that any thing in all
creation could have anything superior to what the United States has!
Well, that is very nice and I am proud that I am a United States
citizen and I am proud of our attainments and developments but after
all we have to face the facts. Anyway she did not like the garbage
can idea! Another woman asked me what they said about Hell. I told
her their idea was this: We are in it right now!
One time we told the Venusians that their world sounded like heaven.
They said we must not say that because they are still very crude,
and that they know of a planet which is six trillion years ahead of
them. They said that man does not always take the form that we know
now. Believe me this is getting very fantastic, but I give it
because it was what we were told. They said that they know of
worlds, although they cannot comprehend them, where man is geometric
in form. Imagine, if you can, a cube or a triangle going along
together! It is just beyond our comprehension. As the Bible says:
"Eye has not seen or ear has not heard what the Father has in store
These people say that this is true. On this planet we have
a certain physical form. We as spiritual beings took this form in
order to learn the lessons that this particular planet has to offer.
Major fault lines cover the earth. When the government decided where
to perform our atomic experiences they picked a place where the
least amount of people would have to be moved, and the southwest was
decided upon in New Mexico. Unfortunately, these experiments were
set off right over two of our major fault lines.
When the big atomic test was made in the Pacific around March 25,
about a day later there occurred some terrific earthquakes in the
Hawaiian Islands. The atomic bombs are not causing the strange
conditions but they are accentuating an already dangerous situation
and our lines of weakness are under more strain and stress now
because of the atomic bomb experiments. If you find a small crack in
the ground and you stomp around on it you may weaken it and the
whole thing may give away.
Yes, there will be catastrophes. In fact they have already started.
Earthquakes will increase, certain lands will go under. The polar
caps are melting at a very fast rate which is why there were
icebergs seen off Florida recently. Also avalanches occurred in
Europe which buried entire villages. The snow is melting very fast.
Ice flows occurred in the northern European harbors not many months
ago, which clogged the harbors so that ships could not get in or
These people say the, world is not coming to an end. The world will
not end. It is only that the true Golden Age which we once knew upon
earth will return -- the Golden Age that all historians talk about,
when man had the ability to speak with angels. Disease will no
longer exist. War will no longer plague us. They also assure us that
life is eternal. They say they believe in a Creator, the same God as
we do but they also said that:
"You worship by word and not by
May I say that when these people speak they never speak in a
derogatory way against any nation, race or church. When they speak
of us they speak of us as a totality -- or the people of earth. They
are interested in everyone in the world.
Some people suggest that religion be left out of this subject. But
how can you leave religion out of it. It is connected. Many people
will say that I sound like a Mormon, an Oaspian, a Christian
Scientist or some other kind of religionist, and that many of the
things I say are things they have learned in their church. All of
the religions have some of the truth. These people told us that God
provided, but that man divided. We are always dividing. That is why
we have so many churches and so many philosophies.
For a long time science has been on the left and religion on the far
right, but more and more through the years they have been coming
together. How can truth contradict truth? There is no religion
higher than truth and if science has some of that truth and religion
has some of the same truth, that truth cannot contradict itself. I
feel that the scientist must recognize the truth of religion, and
the religionist must recognize the truth of science.
Perhaps there will have to be a big explosion to fuse them together
in our minds. But in the minds of the space people they are already
one. In fact they have always been one, because truth will not
contradict truth wherever it is found.
They also told us that under the new cosmic ray bombardment all
falsity and hoaxes will pass away. We will not have to wonder, is
this or that true. We will know! This is one of the mental changes
that will come about. Watch your newspapers and you will see many
things being shown up for what they are. You can call it the true
light coming from Aquarius, you can call it a new vibration, or a
new density, or you can call it a new dimension or the New Golden
In the fall of last year we left the old third density and we are no
longer in it. We are in the transitional stage or in the beginning
of a new dimension or new density right now. As the change is coming
slowly we do not notice it too much. Many people say we are going
from Pisces to Aquarius. These space people are here merely to help
us, and to usher us into this new dimension -- usher us into this
Regardless of what we do there is a New Age coming. People are
wondering what is going to happen in the future. The space beings
said they would not interfere with our education, but there was a
qualification to this. This may seem like a contradiction but I will
try to make it clear. They will eventually interfere if we decide
upon atomic war. If we decide on a peaceful "one-world" they will
land and assist us into the New Age on earth. If we decide on
aggressive war they will let the war go on a certain length of time
because there are certain souls on earth that must have this lesson,
and then they will interfere for our planet must not be destroyed,
nor the peaceful and constructive minded inhabitants.
At one time
"We are here to conquer earth, but conquer the earth with love."
Now the big question is when is all this going to take place. We
asked this question repeatedly. Our radio messages said many times:
"Very soon -- soon -- soon."
We replied: "Maybe 10,000 years to you is soon. What do you mean by
They answered: "When we say soon, we mean soon as you think of
Impatient as we are that must be pretty quick!
Whether you believe what I have told you or not does not matter. But
keep your eyes on the skies. Keep an open mind and look into this
thing for yourselves and give it some serious attention. We are
actually entering a New Age on this earth!
I have enjoyed talking to you very much and would like to know each
and everyone of you.