Eve Francis Lorgen
Excerpt from an Interview with Eve Francis Lorgen
"Reptilians, sometimes referred to as alligator men, are described
as being negative, hateful, militaristic, and very sexual. They are
often reported making sexual assaults on both males and females.
Some abductees or reptilian contacts have reported that the
reptiles, in black hooded robes and capes are higher on the
hierarchy, and control the greys and even the Nordic types.
interesting that throughout history some occultists have been in
contact with the 'Alligator Gods' by means of rituals and some black
UR By way of introduction, why don't you tell everyone a little
about yourself? You have been involved in experiencer support and
related research for a number of years, however your name may not be
well known on the Internet at this point.
EFL My name is Eve Frances Lorgen, and I have been running an
abductee support group in San Diego County for several years (since
1991). I have a master's degree in Counseling Psychology, experience
in hypnosis, and have been an abductee since childhood. I have a
bachelor's degree in Biochemistry and I worked in the biotech field
for seven years before receiving my master's in Psychology.
areas of study are alien abduction phenomena and experienced
anomalous trauma, paranormal and the occult, dreamwork, oriental
medicine, music, and the Bible.
The whole idea [of what she terms the "spiritual warfare tactics] is
to prevent the abductee from getting the information that may be not
only within them, but with others who have discovered the alien
activities by their own memories. The detracting efforts increase
when the reptile type of alien being is discovered in the
experiencers abductions and also any military involvement.
these detracting efforts go well beyond spiritual warfare and are
outright obvious if you just observe enough cases over a period of
If the deception and manipulation or programming is effective on the
individual, then they start promoting the alien agenda and its
correlate spiritual ideologies, which in most cases denounce
Christianity. Instead they may promote the
Ashtar Command or other
channeled material which appears to be spiritually empowering, but
is really a delusion. In most cases, these individuals only want to
promote the "positive" experiences and avoid anyone or information
that is other than what they want to believe. But the truth of the
matter is, if these people were so spiritually evolved as they claim
to be, then they would have the capacity to acknowledge their own
shadow, and how it operates in themselves and others.
Sometimes the experiencer will get messages from their "guidance"
that tell them to stay away from certain researchers or people who
especially know about the "negative" alien abduction stuff. In one
instance an abductee was led to do certain psychic and healing
exercises in a particular energy grid zone area of her home.
alignment of this energy zone in conjunction with the psychic
healing exercises opened up her psychic energy centers and it acted
as an energy drain. Then unusual paranormal events occurred in her
home and with her daughter, who began having reptilian abductions.
An interdimensional portal or doorway was created from these
"healing psychic exercises" in the grid zone, which actually
increased the alien reptilian contact. The whole effect was that the
abductees and their family members became psychically drained and
woke up with "claw- marks" and were attacked during the night.
UR So much has been said about the greys. Do the people in your
support group report seeing other types of aliens?
EFL I work with several abductees who have had the reptile type of
alien encounter. The most common reptile encountered is very tall,
6-10 feet tall, has somewhat of a snout face, red or yellow slit
eyes (they also have been observed to have green and yellow eyes,
usually snake-like in appearance), clawed hands, sometimes a tail,
and are often wearing black robes. Sometimes they wear a type of
militaristic garb or breastplate. They are frightening, and often do
the sexual assault type of behavior. They are possessive of their
The interesting thing about reptilians is their ability of mastering
illusion and shape shifting. A female abductee had an encounter
where a tall being came through an interdimensional doorway or
portal right in her bedroom at night. She became paralyzed and the
being sexually assaulted her, all the while putting in her mind that
she is having sex with her favorite sexual fantasy man. When she
looked in its eyes, she realized it was a reptilian with the slit
eyes. Some abductees are better than others in breaking through the
Reptilians can shape shift and have been reported to be
seen as tall greys, Nordic types and military men. Some abductees
believe the reptile type of alien is the head honcho on the totem
pole and really run the show. These are the types of beings that are
sometimes reported in the underground base abductions alongside
military and lab-coated personnel. These reptile type or alligator
beings have been noted throughout history in occult and black magic
Other beings reported other than greys are the tall
Hot buttons seem to be pushed when trying to get information on the
reptile type of encounters and military encounters where aliens and
military personnel are working in apparent unison. Reptilians,
sometimes referred to as alligator men, are described as being
negative, hateful, militaristic, and very sexual. They are often
reported making sexual assaults on both males and females.
abductees or reptilian contacts have reported that the reptiles, in
black hooded robes and capes are higher on the hierarchy, and
control the greys and even the Nordic types. It is interesting that
throughout history some occultists have been in contact with the
"Alligator Gods" by means of rituals and some black magic practices.
What is also interesting, is that when one does a study of the types
of abductees that are under surveillance, or have military types of
abductions, you will find that the reptiles are involved. They are
very telepathic and can communicate through mental third eye
These beings are interdimensional.
Ms. Lorgen is in the process of writing an article on the spiritual
warfare and the psychological issues of abductees. Also, books on
her personal experiences that include the above-mentioned topics in
greater detail are in the works.
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